Comments: delta company 86-88 dont know if you guys remember lynch when he got booted out for being a gay........some how I got stuck being his mommy for about 6 weeks while he was being court marshalled out.....Happiest day I had was when admin came and got me to delete his name from the roster...wooohooo........I was stuck in rota as an augment to security forces.......God good duty but sucked having to haul you drunks in and moose if your out there I still got a sore back when you was fighting with some short seabee at the uso rock concert over some chick that was even drunker than you two.........luckily I kept your big b*** outta the slammer.......and to you eo's that kept driving drunk.....I did everything I could to save your liscences....just remember that....and to the fleet guys that came ashore during outchop back to the states.......drink another for me, I just dont like wearing your blood on my uniform and puke.........besides the times you sent me to the hospital....there was this one guy we picked up his face was so rearranged when I put his ID card up to his face you couldnt tell who he was........all he kept saying was I cant believe my friends did this to me..........I answered him back as he was very obstinate and swung a few times at me........I said by you must be some kinda a'hole for your friends to this to ya.........he was on the uss nashville..........boy what a nite that was.....and to senior chief bentley , you may have been an ahole too, but after we got to know each other in cbc security you turned out to be one hell of a man..with all my respect god bless ya senior up there in heaven.....for those who didnt know the senior that well....he was security chief at cbc gulfport 1st.lt office........when the jerks in washington dcided to put the smoking ban in effect at the security office he had his desk and phones moved outside because he wasnt goona be inconvieniced by no stupid smoking ban.........turns out the entire ban was open to interpretation by the base commander..........and dod instructions said if you have a ventilation system that moves 6 atmospheres per hour you could have smoking indoors.........senior showed me that one.....they still said PROHIBITION.....Got a good for the senior too since he was so for smokers rights........he was absolutly right nothing in second hand smoek harms anyone..read this.....amazing.......THE AIR ACCORDING TO OSHA
Though repetition has little to do with "the truth," we're repeatedly told that there's "no safe level of exposure to secondhand smoke."
OSHA begs to differ.
OSHA has established PELs (Permissible Exposure Levels) for all the measurable chemicals, including the 40 alleged carcinogens, in secondhand smoke. PELs are levels of exposure for an 8-hour workday from which, according to OSHA, no harm will result.
Of course the idea of "thousands of chemicals" can itself sound spooky. Perhaps it would help to note that coffee contains over 1000 chemicals, 19 of which are known to be rat carcinogens. -"Rodent Carcinogens: Setting Priorities" Gold Et Al., Science, 258: 261-65 (1992)
There. Feel better?
As for secondhand smoke in the air, OSHA has stated outright that:
"Field studies of environmental tobacco smoke indicate that under normal conditions, the components in tobacco smoke are diluted below existing Permissible Exposure Levels (PELS.) as referenced in the Air Contaminant Standard (29 CFR 1910.1000)...It would be very rare to find a workplace with so much smoking that any individual PEL would be exceeded." -Letter From Greg Watchman, Acting Sec'y, OSHA, To Leroy J Pletten, PHD, July 8, 1997
Indeed it would.
Independent health researchers have done the chemistry and the math to prove how very very rare that would be.
As you're about to see in a moment.
In 1999, comments were solicited by the government from an independent Public and Health Policy Research group, Littlewood & Fennel of Austin, Tx, on the subject of secondhand smoke.
Using EPA figures on the emissions per cigarette of everything measurable in secondhand smoke, they compared them to OSHA's PELs.
The following excerpt and chart are directly from their report and their Washington testimony:
CALCULATING THE NON-EXISTENT RISKS OF ETS
"We have taken the substances for which measurements have actually been obtained--very few, of course, because it's difficult to even find these chemicals in diffuse and diluted ETS.
"We posit a sealed, unventilated enclosure that is 20 feet square with a 9 foot ceiling clearance.
"Taking the figures for ETS yields per cigarette directly from the EPA, we calculated the number of cigarettes that would be required to reach the lowest published "danger" threshold for each of these substances. The results are actually quite amusing. In fact, it is difficult to imagine a situation where these threshold limits could be realized.
"Our chart (Table 1) illustrates each of these substances, but let me report some notable examples.
"For Benzo[a]pyrene, 222,000 cigarettes would be required to reach the lowest published "danger" threshold.
"For Acetone, 118,000 cigarettes would be required.
"Toluene would require 50,000 packs of simultaneously smoldering cigarettes.
"At the lower end of the scale-- in the case of Acetaldehyde or Hydrazine, more than 14,000 smokers would need to light up simultaneously in our little room to reach the threshold at which they might begin to pose a danger.
"For Hydroquinone, "only" 1250 cigarettes are required. Perhaps we could post a notice limiting this 20-foot square room to 300 rather tightly-packed people smoking no more than 62 packs per hour?
"Of course the moment we introduce real world factors to the room -- a door, an open window or two, or a healthy level of mechanical air exchange (remember, the room we've been talking about is sealed) achieving these levels becomes even more implausible.
"It becomes increasingly clear to us that ETS is a political, rather than scientific, scapegoat."
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Comments: Hello Everyone, I was looking at the photos and I believe I recognized Tojo Morgan. I believe he was a fastpitch pitcher when I was in Gulfport. I was in MCB 62 from deployment to Hue Phu Bai on December 20 in 66 and returned and left Danang in June of 68. I was one of the (IPO's) and I had lots of good times while I served. Like to hear from anyone that I served with. Tom Stasik SWF3
Comments: Wow, this is going back. First tour as an Ensign to LTJG from 1982-1985, an experience to remember. S4A, had two SUPPOS, John Hensley and Steve Thamer, and one more as I left from Okinawa. Remember the GUAM and Puerto Rico deployments. Did a fast combat stores ship, USS WHITE PLAINS AFS4 out of Guam a few years later. Greetings shipmates and fellow SEABEES.
Comments: I served in 62 from Jan. 79 until Oct 82. I made deployments on Rota w Sigonella Det, then to Gitmo for Roosy Rds, finally had to go with the main body to Diego Garcia for the final deployment. Wow saw some pictures that almost made that place look civilized now. Looking for old buddies that I served with.